Steven and Bill catch up and talk about the latest in the film photo news. We discuss Doc Kaps' efforts in saving pack film one last time. Bill is a bit annoyed with Silberra Film's lack of communication on their Indie Go Go. Lastly, Bill gives an update on developing 4x5 black and white film with CineStill Film's monobath developer, the Df96. Be sure to listen to our one-on-one interview with photographer and YouTuber, Lina Bessonova!